Dave,

Another note about the charger. When searching for the engine (Kubota single
cylinder diesel) I have yet to find one on the net. Don't understand why.
Will most likely do as you say and build it myself, but can't understand not
being able to locate the engine.

Van...
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-baba-l@ballreich.net [mailto:owner-baba-l@ballreich.net]On
Behalf Of Dave Lewis
  Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:41 PM
  To: baba-l@ballreich.net
  Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Baba-L] Rigging

  The best I can tell there is no money to be saved by making this purchase
in Mexico. I would purchase it in the states and there are several mfg's.,
or if you are real resourcesful you could put one of these units thogether
yourself. Anyhow, for a started look at the Watermaker Store, this will give
you an idea, then do a product search on the internet. In the US we are
talking ~ $5K, but we might be able to negotiate a better price once I know
your situation.

  Where are you located, maybe I can help you locate one?

  I am running my unnit as I write, part of my weekly maintenance checks
"PM" (preventative maintenace."

  I am not passing the buck here, but rather... I am willing to help, let me
know what size boat? Then I will make my recommendations based on my
installation.

  Best regards,

  Dave
  S/V Bella

  On 7/27/06, van ford <vfsail@simpledsl.com> wrote:
    Dave,

    What would the going price of the Kubota genset(alternator) go for in
Mexico?

    Van...
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-baba-l@ballreich.net [mailto:owner-baba-l@ballreich.net]On
Behalf Of Dave Lewis
      Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:05 PM
      To: baba-l@ballreich.net
      Subject: Re: [Baba-L] Rigging

      Unless you are straooed for cash, I could not disagree with you more
strongly. The Kubota will last you the life of the boat, they are in use all
over Asia with little or no maintenance. Once the bed plate is installed I
could pull my unit out in half an hour if I needed to. If you really intend
to cruise the open ocean and not follw the coast line like most land lovin
so call cruiser, then you have to bite the bullet and install the more
reliable Kubota diesel engine, no mess no fuss it is a great unit.

      Dave Lewis
      S/V Bella
      Ensenada, BC, Mexico

      On 7/25/06, Bill Wiggins <ajnin@rocketmail.com> wrote:
        Rick,
          Here is an idea that I have been using for the past 14 months
while
        cruising my 35' Baba in SE Asia. I use a portable Honda 2000 (very
        quiet) generator for recharging (cost $650). I am not an avid
believer
        in carrying excess gasoline but I have to carry some for my 4 stroke
        outboard anyway and the Honda burns very little fuel. I have a
ProSine
        3000 inverter/charger that actually does the charging of the
batteries.
        This combo seems to take up the least amount of room onboard and
would
        be much easier and less expensive to replace than my Yanmar diesel
        after many hours of charging use.
          Just a different way to tackle the problem. A Honda 1000 would
        probably be sufficient also.
        Aloha,
        Bill Wiggins
        S/v Jipz Rose
        Baba 35
        Malaysia

        --- Rick < rwsail35@houston.rr.com > wrote:

> Hi Dave. Thanks for the information and yes, I would like to see
the
> generator installation pictures. To this date, I have not heard
> report of any Baba 30 with a generator. I do feel the generator to
be
> the best means of providing power, but I have not located a unit
> which would be small enough to fit in the stern of a Baba 30. I
agree
> completely, with the comments on the 304 vs. 316 materials. Mine
have
> been well protected from leaks and had no evidenced of water
> intrusion. You a correct on the gloves (use white glove for formal
> inspections). If you spray a little WD30 on the wire prior to
> inspection it seems to make the rag, in your gloved hand grab the
> rat-tails (fish hooks) easier. I have had a great deal of
experience
> with Rod Rigging, via my past ownership with a C&C Landfall. The
ONLY
> downfall to rod that I can report is about 25% more initial
expense
> and it can't be easily stowed below for spare rigging. These were
> issues which were easily overcome.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Lewis
> To: baba-l@ballreich.net
> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Baba-L] Rigging
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I have an opinion, but it usually ruffles feathers... so take no
> offense.
>
> First, the rod is overkill, I would simply replace the head stay
> and insect the remaining rigging for signs of wear and or fish
hooks.
> The test for fish hooks is tissue paper wiped down, oh, did I for
get
> to mention - wear a glove.
>
> There is nothing wrong with 304 SST, the secret is to create a
good
> seal to keep out sea water and atmosphere to prevent rust. If
chain
> plates are inspected for sealing surface they should last the life
of
> the boat 304 or 316, makes no difference when it comes to sealing
out
> the weather. 316 is preferred choice, but not always available in
> different corners of the world and I would not change anything
just
> because it was 304 and not 316.
>
> Gen set. While I have a Baba 40 I installed the small Kubota
with
> 140 amp alt/DC. There are a lot of mfg., for this small unit
> configured vertical or horizontal depending upon your available
room.
> I installed mine in the canoe stern on a SST 3/8" plate bolted to
> hull. There is not a smaller unit to my knowledge, let me know if
you
> want pictures and or more info., I think Burce has mine on his
site
> somewhere.
>
> Solar panels are a gimmick for coastal yahoos. First off they
are
> ugly, they take up too much room, they are not efficient unless
> properly orientated with the sun... good luck with this one,
unless
> you intend to stay dock side. I do not evaluate them as marine
grade
> equipment and they are fragile. The solar panels only put out
minimum
> energy, get a gen set and you can charge your batteries in a
matter
> of minutes, plus make water at the same time, you can't run your
> water maker (if you have one) on solar panels or the battery for
that
> matter. Solar panels belong on houses to heat circulating water.
> While we are on this subject, there is a new mfg on the market
that
> just spun off of Cypress Semi that makes a panel twice as
effective
> as any on being sold today. While this industry has been around a
> while, it is not very refined as I see it. No solar panels on
> sailboats, thank you very much.
>
> Anyhow, have a great day, smooth sailing and enjoy your summer.
It
> is HOT here in Baja.
>
> Dave
> S/V Bella
> Ensenada, BC, Mexico
>
>
> On 7/22/06, Rick <rwsail35@houston.rr.com > wrote:
> Hi all. There was a great deal of discussion, in the past,
which
> was related to the failure of the 304 ss chain plates on the Baba
30.
> I am happy to say that I seem to have dodged the ball on that
issue,
> as I had no corrosion. I was less than lucky with the head stay. I
> have a Profurl roller furler on Lorac. Close inspection of the 316
ss
> 1x19 wire made evident wear which was hidden under the drum
assembly.
> There was a small rat-tail in one of the 9 outer strands of the
wire.
> This leaves the entire forestay suspect and is going to be
replaced.
> I feel that it is time to simplify things a bit. The roller furler
is
> going away. I am strongly considering using rod for the forestay
as
> it is stronger, lighter and will allow for easier travel for the
> hank-on sails.
> I am also looking at power supply for cruising. Does anyone
have
> a generator in their Baba 30, how many kw, where is it installed
etc?
> Any opinions on solar panels?
> Thanks.
> Fair wind; blue water.
> Rick Williams
> S/V Lorac; Baba 30 #71
>
>

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