Hi Dave. The pictures were great!!! I wish I had the same room on my Baba 30 as you do on your Baba 40. I have obtained the dimensions on the Kubota, Westerbeke, Panda and 4 other generators and none will fit in the stern of a Baba 30. My only option, as far as I have been able to determine, is to install the generator in my starboard lazarette. This is an option which few Baba 30's have as I have port and starboard lazarettes verses port lazarette and quarter birth. Unfortunately; I use the starboard lazarette for stowing my drifter, 130, storm jib, Trysail, 65 lb. Luke anchor and parachute anchor. My port lazarette has lines, fenders, emergency tiller, Danforth anchor and boarding ladder. My sailing time off shore, not very close to shore due to shipping lanes oil rigs and a general desire not to be near land, has been limited since the purchase of Lorac 2 years ago, but I spent much time sailing the Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic in my C&C Landfall, prior to purchasing my Baba. My past experience will not allow me to forego the convenience of having the afore mentioned items ready at a moments notice. Thought the Gulf of Mexico be small, she be fierce. For this reason, though I really do miss my Landfall's Westerbeke generator, I will have to continue to explore my options.
Thanks for the insights.
Fair winds; blue water.
S/V Lorac; Baba 30 371
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dave Lewis
  To: baba-l@ballreich.net
  Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Baba-L] Rigging

  Unless you are straooed for cash, I could not disagree with you more strongly. The Kubota will last you the life of the boat, they are in use all over Asia with little or no maintenance. Once the bed plate is installed I could pull my unit out in half an hour if I needed to. If you really intend to cruise the open ocean and not follw the coast line like most land lovin so call cruiser, then you have to bite the bullet and install the more reliable Kubota diesel engine, no mess no fuss it is a great unit.

  Dave Lewis
  S/V Bella
  Ensenada, BC, Mexico

  On 7/25/06, Bill Wiggins <ajnin@rocketmail.com> wrote:
    Rick,
      Here is an idea that I have been using for the past 14 months while
    cruising my 35' Baba in SE Asia. I use a portable Honda 2000 (very
    quiet) generator for recharging (cost $650). I am not an avid believer
    in carrying excess gasoline but I have to carry some for my 4 stroke
    outboard anyway and the Honda burns very little fuel. I have a ProSine
    3000 inverter/charger that actually does the charging of the batteries.
    This combo seems to take up the least amount of room onboard and would
    be much easier and less expensive to replace than my Yanmar diesel
    after many hours of charging use.
      Just a different way to tackle the problem. A Honda 1000 would
    probably be sufficient also.
    Aloha,
    Bill Wiggins
    S/v Jipz Rose
    Baba 35
    Malaysia

    --- Rick < rwsail35@houston.rr.com> wrote:

> Hi Dave. Thanks for the information and yes, I would like to see the
> generator installation pictures. To this date, I have not heard
> report of any Baba 30 with a generator. I do feel the generator to be
> the best means of providing power, but I have not located a unit
> which would be small enough to fit in the stern of a Baba 30. I agree
> completely, with the comments on the 304 vs. 316 materials. Mine have
> been well protected from leaks and had no evidenced of water
> intrusion. You a correct on the gloves (use white glove for formal
> inspections). If you spray a little WD30 on the wire prior to
> inspection it seems to make the rag, in your gloved hand grab the
> rat-tails (fish hooks) easier. I have had a great deal of experience
> with Rod Rigging, via my past ownership with a C&C Landfall. The ONLY
> downfall to rod that I can report is about 25% more initial expense
> and it can't be easily stowed below for spare rigging. These were
> issues which were easily overcome.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Lewis
> To: baba-l@ballreich.net
> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Baba-L] Rigging
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I have an opinion, but it usually ruffles feathers... so take no
> offense.
>
> First, the rod is overkill, I would simply replace the head stay
> and insect the remaining rigging for signs of wear and or fish hooks.
> The test for fish hooks is tissue paper wiped down, oh, did I for get
> to mention - wear a glove.
>
> There is nothing wrong with 304 SST, the secret is to create a good
> seal to keep out sea water and atmosphere to prevent rust. If chain
> plates are inspected for sealing surface they should last the life of
> the boat 304 or 316, makes no difference when it comes to sealing out
> the weather. 316 is preferred choice, but not always available in
> different corners of the world and I would not change anything just
> because it was 304 and not 316.
>
> Gen set. While I have a Baba 40 I installed the small Kubota with
> 140 amp alt/DC. There are a lot of mfg., for this small unit
> configured vertical or horizontal depending upon your available room.
> I installed mine in the canoe stern on a SST 3/8" plate bolted to
> hull. There is not a smaller unit to my knowledge, let me know if you
> want pictures and or more info., I think Burce has mine on his site
> somewhere.
>
> Solar panels are a gimmick for coastal yahoos. First off they are
> ugly, they take up too much room, they are not efficient unless
> properly orientated with the sun... good luck with this one, unless
> you intend to stay dock side. I do not evaluate them as marine grade
> equipment and they are fragile. The solar panels only put out minimum
> energy, get a gen set and you can charge your batteries in a matter
> of minutes, plus make water at the same time, you can't run your
> water maker (if you have one) on solar panels or the battery for that
> matter. Solar panels belong on houses to heat circulating water.
> While we are on this subject, there is a new mfg on the market that
> just spun off of Cypress Semi that makes a panel twice as effective
> as any on being sold today. While this industry has been around a
> while, it is not very refined as I see it. No solar panels on
> sailboats, thank you very much.
>
> Anyhow, have a great day, smooth sailing and enjoy your summer. It
> is HOT here in Baja.
>
> Dave
> S/V Bella
> Ensenada, BC, Mexico
>
>
> On 7/22/06, Rick <rwsail35@houston.rr.com> wrote:
> Hi all. There was a great deal of discussion, in the past, which
> was related to the failure of the 304 ss chain plates on the Baba 30.
> I am happy to say that I seem to have dodged the ball on that issue,
> as I had no corrosion. I was less than lucky with the head stay. I
> have a Profurl roller furler on Lorac. Close inspection of the 316 ss
> 1x19 wire made evident wear which was hidden under the drum assembly.
> There was a small rat-tail in one of the 9 outer strands of the wire.
> This leaves the entire forestay suspect and is going to be replaced.
> I feel that it is time to simplify things a bit. The roller furler is
> going away. I am strongly considering using rod for the forestay as
> it is stronger, lighter and will allow for easier travel for the
> hank-on sails.
> I am also looking at power supply for cruising. Does anyone have
> a generator in their Baba 30, how many kw, where is it installed etc?
> Any opinions on solar panels?
> Thanks.
> Fair wind; blue water.
> Rick Williams
> S/V Lorac; Baba 30 #71
>
>

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