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From: Alan Sugarman <sugarman_at_sugarlaw.com>
Date: Thu Jul 27 2006 - 13:55:53 PDT

Van
Where are you planning to put the Kubota on a Baba 30.
The Hummingbird vesion from The Watermaker Store weighs 130 pounds.
28" x 14" x 15"
http://www.watermakerstore.com/Generators/downloads/HummingbirdFlyer0305.pdf
Alan

ps If you have tiller steering, it might fit under the cockpit.

At 02:52 PM 7/27/2006, you wrote:
>Dave,
>
>Not looking to buy today, but was curious as if maybe you had a
>source in Mexico that was able to buy at a really good price. I have
>a Baba 30 and will when the time comes fit one in somehow as I feel
>that is the only way to go, beats a genset hands down.
>
>Van....
>
>PS thanks for the info.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-baba-l@ballreich.net
>[mailto:owner-baba-l@ballreich.net]On Behalf Of Dave Lewis
>Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:41 PM
>To: baba-l@ballreich.net
>Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Baba-L] Rigging
>
>The best I can tell there is no money to be saved by making this
>purchase in Mexico. I would purchase it in the states and there are
>several mfg's., or if you are real resourcesful you could put one of
>these units thogether yourself. Anyhow, for a started look at the
>Watermaker Store, this will give you an idea, then do a product
>search on the internet. In the US we are talking ~ $5K, but we might
>be able to negotiate a better price once I know your situation.
>
>Where are you located, maybe I can help you locate one?
>
>I am running my unnit as I write, part of my weekly maintenance
>checks "PM" (preventative maintenace."
>
>I am not passing the buck here, but rather... I am willing to help,
>let me know what size boat? Then I will make my recommendations
>based on my installation.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Dave
>S/V Bella
>
>On 7/27/06, van ford
><<mailto:vfsail@simpledsl.com>vfsail@simpledsl.com> wrote:
>Dave,
>
>What would the going price of the Kubota genset(alternator) go for in Mexico?
>
>
>Van...
>-----Original Message-----
>From: <mailto:owner-baba-l@ballreich.net>owner-baba-l@ballreich.net
>[mailto:owner-baba-l@ballreich.net]On Behalf Of Dave Lewis
>Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:05 PM
>To: <mailto:baba-l@ballreich.net>baba-l@ballreich.net
>Subject: Re: [Baba-L] Rigging
>
>Unless you are straooed for cash, I could not disagree with you more
>strongly. The Kubota will last you the life of the boat, they are in
>use all over Asia with little or no maintenance. Once the bed plate
>is installed I could pull my unit out in half an hour if I needed
>to. If you really intend to cruise the open ocean and not follw the
>coast line like most land lovin so call cruiser, then you have to
>bite the bullet and install the more reliable Kubota diesel engine,
>no mess no fuss it is a great unit.
>
>Dave Lewis
>S/V Bella
>Ensenada, BC, Mexico
>
>On 7/25/06, Bill Wiggins
><<mailto:ajnin@rocketmail.com>ajnin@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>Rick,
> Here is an idea that I have been using for the past 14 months while
>cruising my 35' Baba in SE Asia. I use a portable Honda 2000 (very
>quiet) generator for recharging (cost $650). I am not an avid believer
>in carrying excess gasoline but I have to carry some for my 4 stroke
>outboard anyway and the Honda burns very little fuel. I have a ProSine
>3000 inverter/charger that actually does the charging of the batteries.
>This combo seems to take up the least amount of room onboard and would
>be much easier and less expensive to replace than my Yanmar diesel
>after many hours of charging use.
> Just a different way to tackle the problem. A Honda 1000 would
>probably be sufficient also.
>Aloha,
>Bill Wiggins
>S/v Jipz Rose
>Baba 35
>Malaysia
>
>--- Rick < <mailto:rwsail35@houston.rr.com>rwsail35@houston.rr.com > wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave. Thanks for the information and yes, I would like to see the
> > generator installation pictures. To this date, I have not heard
> > report of any Baba 30 with a generator. I do feel the generator to be
> > the best means of providing power, but I have not located a unit
> > which would be small enough to fit in the stern of a Baba 30. I agree
> > completely, with the comments on the 304 vs. 316 materials. Mine have
> > been well protected from leaks and had no evidenced of water
> > intrusion. You a correct on the gloves (use white glove for formal
> > inspections). If you spray a little WD30 on the wire prior to
> > inspection it seems to make the rag, in your gloved hand grab the
> > rat-tails (fish hooks) easier. I have had a great deal of experience
> > with Rod Rigging, via my past ownership with a C&C Landfall. The ONLY
> > downfall to rod that I can report is about 25% more initial expense
> > and it can't be easily stowed below for spare rigging. These were
> > issues which were easily overcome.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dave Lewis
> > To: <mailto:baba-l@ballreich.net>baba-l@ballreich.net
> > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Baba-L] Rigging
> >
> >
> > Rick,
> >
> > I have an opinion, but it usually ruffles feathers... so take no
> > offense.
> >
> > First, the rod is overkill, I would simply replace the head stay
> > and insect the remaining rigging for signs of wear and or fish hooks.
> > The test for fish hooks is tissue paper wiped down, oh, did I for get
> > to mention - wear a glove.
> >
> > There is nothing wrong with 304 SST, the secret is to create a good
> > seal to keep out sea water and atmosphere to prevent rust. If chain
> > plates are inspected for sealing surface they should last the life of
> > the boat 304 or 316, makes no difference when it comes to sealing out
> > the weather. 316 is preferred choice, but not always available in
> > different corners of the world and I would not change anything just
> > because it was 304 and not 316.
> >
> > Gen set. While I have a Baba 40 I installed the small Kubota with
> > 140 amp alt/DC. There are a lot of mfg., for this small unit
> > configured vertical or horizontal depending upon your available room.
> > I installed mine in the canoe stern on a SST 3/8" plate bolted to
> > hull. There is not a smaller unit to my knowledge, let me know if you
> > want pictures and or more info., I think Burce has mine on his site
> > somewhere.
> >
> > Solar panels are a gimmick for coastal yahoos. First off they are
> > ugly, they take up too much room, they are not efficient unless
> > properly orientated with the sun... good luck with this one, unless
> > you intend to stay dock side. I do not evaluate them as marine grade
> > equipment and they are fragile. The solar panels only put out minimum
> > energy, get a gen set and you can charge your batteries in a matter
> > of minutes, plus make water at the same time, you can't run your
> > water maker (if you have one) on solar panels or the battery for that
> > matter. Solar panels belong on houses to heat circulating water.
> > While we are on this subject, there is a new mfg on the market that
> > just spun off of Cypress Semi that makes a panel twice as effective
> > as any on being sold today. While this industry has been around a
> > while, it is not very refined as I see it. No solar panels on
> > sailboats, thank you very much.
> >
> > Anyhow, have a great day, smooth sailing and enjoy your summer. It
> > is HOT here in Baja.
> >
> > Dave
> > S/V Bella
> > Ensenada, BC, Mexico
> >
> >
> > On 7/22/06, Rick
> <<mailto:rwsail35@houston.rr.com>rwsail35@houston.rr.com > wrote:
> > Hi all. There was a great deal of discussion, in the past, which
> > was related to the failure of the 304 ss chain plates on the Baba 30.
> > I am happy to say that I seem to have dodged the ball on that issue,
> > as I had no corrosion. I was less than lucky with the head stay. I
> > have a Profurl roller furler on Lorac. Close inspection of the 316 ss
> > 1x19 wire made evident wear which was hidden under the drum assembly.
> > There was a small rat-tail in one of the 9 outer strands of the wire.
> > This leaves the entire forestay suspect and is going to be replaced.
> > I feel that it is time to simplify things a bit. The roller furler is
> > going away. I am strongly considering using rod for the forestay as
> > it is stronger, lighter and will allow for easier travel for the
> > hank-on sails.
> > I am also looking at power supply for cruising. Does anyone have
> > a generator in their Baba 30, how many kw, where is it installed etc?
> > Any opinions on solar panels?
> > Thanks.
> > Fair wind; blue water.
> > Rick Williams
> > S/V Lorac; Baba 30 #71
> >
> >
>
>
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