Gary Walls & Bill Healy wrote:

> Re: What is a Panda; What is a Baba; What is a Tashiba?:
>
> My recollection is that the Baba 40 and Panda 40 were the same boat,
> designed by Bob Perry, interior layout by Bob Berg, built by Ta
> Shing, and with some variations in exterior trim and interior layout
> by Bob Berg for his Panda line.
>
> The Baba had five portholes on each side while the Panda had six. The
> Panda had more exterior teak trim, including teak decking on the
> cabintop as standard. These items were available as extras on the
> Baba line. The interior of the Panda had the angled "keyhole" galley
> and smaller, slightly angled dinette - as the galley bulkhead was
> about 5 inches forward of its location on the Baba. The Baba had the
> "U" shaped galley and a slightly larger - fore & aft - rectangular
> dinette.

FWIW, our Baba 35 has a keyhole galley. We're the third owners and
haven't had any contact with the first owner beyond finding the name
Valentine Satko on some paperwork. So I have no idea how the keyhole
galley came to be on OWTW.

>
> In 1985 Bob Perry was asked by Ta Shing to update the deck layout on
> the same hull, which resulted in the new model, christened a Tashiba.
> (Ta Shing + Baba = Tashiba?) Amadon Light was built in 1985 and was
> the second Tashiba deck done. Initially, we were reluctant to go with
> the unseen changed design as the original Baba looked perfect. Bob
> Perry said at the time that the changes were not dramatic and would
> not be very noticeable: three inches wider in the cabintop, one and a
> half inches more headroom, slightly angled cockpit seats, and
> softened cabin sides and front.

Interesting as Perry said the Tashiba 31 and 36 have changes in the hull
below the waterline as well as having more contemporary bows.

>
> Amadon Light is a Tashipanba. It has the redesigned deck, the "U"
> shaped galley, the larger, rectangular dinette, and six portholes on
> each side. The latter required eliminating the top half of the
> circular bulkhead in front of the galley and replacing it with a
> large, laminated beam athwartship, so as to properly fit the line of
> six portholes on each side. (Ta Shing was amazing in doing custom
> work: 179 changes overall in building Amadon Light. Bob Perry did
> the drawings and specifications for the changes, and all was then
> translated into Cantonese for the shipwrights in the factory.)
>
> I believe the Panda 38 was not built by Ta Shing, and there was never
> a Baba 38. The design is completely different from the other Baba/
> Panda/Tashiba boats. Was it a Perry design?

According to Perry, the 38 and 34 were done by someone who'd been in
Perry's shop but they're not Perry designs. However, from about the
back of the cabin house forward, and below, the differences, at least on
a brief visit to a 38, escaped us.

>
> Did not the Baba 30 and 35 morph into the Tashiba 31 and 36, with an
> updated deck layout?

And with slightly tighter hull sections and finer bows. As well as
gaining a foot in beam and LOA.

>
> It is easy to understand why the history of the Crusades is so
> difficult to piece together, given the difficulty of recreating the
> birth and life of Baba/Panda/Tashiba yachts in our lifetimes.
> Maybe Bob Berg and Bob Perry can provide some input before they take
> their secrets to the grave.

I got some information from Bob Perry, which is in a Baba Salt. I
haven't spoken with Bob Berg.

>
> Bill Healy
> Amadon Light
> Tashipanba 40
> Scarborough, Australia
>
> P.S. It is commendable of Cindy to give up her day job and family to
> take over the World Wide Baba Net. Very nice job.
>
Little does she suspect what's in store for her... bwahahahahahaha! I'd
say more but the nice men from the basket weaving academy are coming for
me with my special long-sleeved coat...

Rick



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