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Re: Rust and Rotmares and Keystroke

From: Alan Sugarman <sugarman_at_sugarlaw.com>
Date: Tue Jun 19 2007 - 05:30:14 PDT

Parmano

I will get over it after a few months - don't worry!!!

I had actually wantted the cut-out to run fully across the width of
the tank - to make it easier to access the fittings.

I would also suggest a spare fiiting for those emergencies.

I have a sump pickup that goes to the bottom of the tank and that is
fed into a fuel polishing system.

The fuel level meter is a WEMA - recommended.

The hoses are to and from a manual/automatic bilge bump located in
the forward shallow bilge.

There is an article in the current Passagemaker on fuel tanks and I
recommend this - yes, it is a trawler magazine, but Bill Parlatore,
the founder and editor, was a Baba 30 owner once, Bivacco.

Good article and appliable to sail boats.

Also, they recommend that the engine return go down a tube to the
bottom of the tank - the theory being that if at the top, it acts as
an aerator.

Alan

At 11:45 PM 6/18/2007, you wrote:
>OOps
>Iam so embarassed ALAN.
>Forgive my misaddress to RicK Emerson for reply to your significant
>attachment.
>Pamarno, 1980 Baba 30 #88
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>From: Alan Sugarman <sugarman@sugarlaw.com>
>my old and new baba30 tank
>http://www.baba30.com/baba30fueltank.htm
>
>At 01:54 PM 6/18/2007, you wrote:
>>Rick
>>Ah Haaaa!!
>>
>>You have answered the question why Master Haung created a 3/4"
>>limber hole in the lower aft face of Pamarno's fuel tank compartment!
>> Recent surveyors felt this should be a contained area in light of
>> newer environmental concerns about fuel spillage, it was viewed
>> from a different perspective in the 1980's.
>>
>>My 25 gallon tank was also on teakwood battens, that I re installed
>>as they were just fine, also the 27 year old tank was not in need
>>of more than a power wire brushing and cold galvanizing coating and
>>Hammeral. I also recoated this compartment with bildge paint.
>>The interior of the tank and welds were sound, although a 1/2 inch
>>of sludge dirty with grit and goo lined the bottom and was slightly
>>above the supply lift tube. I cleaned up with a spill diaper and
>>thoroughly washed down with alcohol solvent, let dry and vacumned
>>any remained dust. I found butyle gasket mater! ial (vi a a local
>>Marine Diesel service CO, in Bellingham,Wa) and cut&punched for the
>>faces and bolts on the inspection lid. With new lines and an in
>>line 12volt fuel lift pump for easier oil changes on the Volvo
>>Penta MDIIC, I have respected the diesel gods.
>>Pam Hooper
>>Pamarno 1980, Baba 30 #88
>>
>>-------------- Original message --------------
>>From: "Richard B. Emerson" <pavilion@pinefields.com>
>>While I've believed that, about Baba owners, "there are those who
>>have replaced their fuel tanks and those who will", after seeing
>>OWTW's tank out of the boat, this is a much bigger "Master Huang
>>surprise" than I expected. Please look on the forum's maintenance
>>section for the pictures. The executive summary is that, at least
>>in our '85 35, there are three glaring errors:
>>1) There is no drainage for water trapped along the sides of the
>>tank. There is some space for water to eventually leave but that's
>>not the same as proper installation. At least on OWTW, the tank
>>was killed by water standing, albeit briefly, along the lower edge
>>of the tank.
>>2) The tank rests on two rails or stringers (mad! e of gl ass
>>matting over PVC pipe or hose) and wood blocks under the tank. A
>>full 60 gallon tank probably weighs close to 500 lbs (480 lbs for
>>60 gal. of water, diesel is slightly lighter, add the weight of the
>>tank and... 500 lbs isn't hard to reach). Setting it on the
>>stringers and wood blocks that will over time turn to pulp due to
>>water intrusion... not good.
>>3) The tank is held in place by cleats screwed to an aft and
>>forward bulkhead. There are no straps or other hold-downs. On
>>OWTW the forward bulkhead was rotting to the point of not longer
>>being servicable. The tanks was ultimately held in place more by
>>rust than anything else.
>>The tank walls are about 1/8" thick; rust had reduced this to about
>>half (1/16") in at least the point where the tank was cut
>>apart. The prudent Baba owner would do well to check their tanks
>>for rust problems.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Rick
>>
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