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Re: ADMIN: New Baba-L Format (long, but important)

From: Philip Iannaccone <pmi_at_northwestern.edu>
Date: Sat Jun 16 2007 - 16:29:52 PDT

Cindy

Thank you for all your effort on the list! This is my second season
on my Baba 30 Adoxographi. I fell in love with the Baba 30 the
first time I saw one in Annapolis. I sailed for many years but
Adoxographi is my first boat. The collective wisdom and experience
of this group has been invaluable to me and made my first season a
lot less scary and much more fun. Your managing the list serve has
been key to that.

Rick thanks for taking it on!

Phil
S/V Adoxographi

>Hi All,
>
>Sorry for the long message, but there?s a lot of info I need to
>convey. You might even want to print this one out. There?s some
>procedural stuff at the end you might want a paper copy of.
>
>Some of you may know that the Baba list is changing formats. The
>Baba list has always been an email-based forum. We have archives
>dating back to 2002, but it existed well before that. Unfortunately
>a lot of things have changed on the internet, especially with email.
>Rick Emerson administered the list for years until his ISP wouldn?t
>let him do it any more. Then we moved the list to a commercial
>?groups? site, but they changed their rules and our ?free? list
>became a ?pay? list. I took over the list in 2005 and have been
>running it on my server since then. It?s been a fun project and no
>one has benefited from the list content more than I have. However,
>the demands of the list on my time have grown steadily since I took
>it over. Currently, two thirds of the emails to the list are SPAM.
>At any given time 10% of the subscribers to this list can?t receive
>emails from it because of problems or restrictions at their ISPs. I
>don?t believe the doom-criers who say that ?email is dead?, but I do
>believe that email is very sick. It?s no longer a good medium for a
>list like Baba-L. These issues come on top of increased demands for
>my time in other areas (like work and cruising) and have made it
>very clear to me that it is time to step down as the list
>administrator.
>
>After a lot of consideration and discussion behind the scenes, Rick
>Beddoe has stepped forwarded to carry the torch into the future.
>Rick has set up a web-based forum which will take the place of the
>current mailing list. This will take some getting-used-to for
>everyone (including me) as the procedures are different and it won?t
>have the immediacy of an email-based list. However, I think that if
>we all give this new format our support we can get past the initial
>growing pains and create a very accessible community. We know that
>only a fraction of the Baba/Panda/Tashiba owners subscribe to the
>list. Hopefully we can create a place on the web where those people
>will feel comfortable.
>
>Ok, enough with the announcement. Now for some instructions?
>
>The biggest difference with the new form is the registration
>process. EVERYONE has to register. I had to register. Being a
>subscriber to the mailing list does not count as a forum
>registration. Registering is EASY! Here?s how you do it?
>
>Step one is to go to http://sail2live.com/baba/ which is the current
>home page for the Baba web site.
>
>Step two is to click on the ?BBS? link on the left side of the page.
>This will bring you to the main forum page.
>
>The third step is to click on the ?Register? link on the bar above
>the ?Baba BBS? title. This will take you to a registration page
>where you will have to enter some info about yourself.
>
>You will need to choose a ?username?. This will be your visible name
>on the forum. My user name is Cindy (pretty creative, huh?) which is
>how I sign my emails on the mailing list. You could use your name,
>your boat name, your nickname, or any kind of identifying handle
>that you?d like.
>
>You will need to enter your email address. Why do you need an email
>address for a web-based forum? This is partially for security
>reasons, but mostly so Rick can contact you if there are problems.
>
>You will need to choose a password. You wouldn?t want someone
>pretending to be you and saying all kinds of embarrassing things,
>would you? So choose a password that you can easily remember, but
>which others won?t be likely to guess. (Your boat?s name might not
>be a good password.) You?ll have to enter your password twice. This
>insures that you?ve entered it correctly.
>
>Now comes the more difficult part. Evil people have written software
>than can wander around the internet signing up for forums and
>posting SPAM to them. Nowadays, most forums have some kind of
>security feature that only humans can complete. This keeps most of
>the ?bots? out while letting the people in. The security feature on
>the Baba form is a little math problem. You?ll be presented with a
>series of math problems and be asked to solve one of them. Here?s an
>example?
>
> What is the result of the arithmetic problem on line 3?
> (25*11)-28=?
> (12+3) * 16=?
> 132+81-51=?
> 134-16=?
>
>You should do the specified problem and enter the result (numbers
>only) into the provided box. You can do the equation in your head,
>use paper, use a calculator, or do like I did and enter it into
>Google. (Did you know that Google could be used as a calculator?
>It?s very cool!)
>
>That?s it for the required stuff!!! However, if you want, you can
>select from a list of features to customize how the forum works for
>you. None of it is difficult and it can all be changed later if
>you?d like things to work differently.
>
>So now, you?ve jumped through all of the hoops and you can click on
>the send button. You should see a confirmation message on the
>screen. After a very short time you should also get a confirmation
>email sent to the email address that you specified during the
>registration process. I?m not sure how it?s done on the back end,
>but after you?ve been ?verified? (perhaps Rick is checking names
>against the mailing list) you?ll receive a verification email
>informing you that you can now post to the forum.
>
>Reading these instructions makes the whole process seem much more
>difficult than it really is. It?s all quite self-explanatory and
>easy. Everybody on the list should do it right away. I?m going to
>leave the mailing list up until the 22nd so we can talk about any
>problems people may be having getting registered.
>
>People who own boats in the Baba family are clearly fans of
>tradition. I know that the Baba-L mailing list (in all of its
>incarnations) has been a tradition we?ve all enjoyed. Unfortunately,
>the time has come to make a change. I encourage everyone to give
>Rick Beddoe all of your support and help in the difficult task of
>taking the Baba list into the future.
>
>Thanks for taking the time to read all this. Please feel free to
>email me on or off the list if you have questions. Remember, the
>plan is that the Baba-L list will shut it?s doors on June 22.
>
>Your humble (but tired) list admin...
>
>Cindy
>s/v Mandisa
>Baba 30 #218
>
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