I don’t think you will find any problems with any of these small Japanese
diesel engines for long term reliability. They have many years of industrial
experience with these small diesel engines. Even my tractor has a Yanmar.
The major difference, which I feel, makes the Yanmar the better bargain is
the complete marinization package of the engine by Yanmar. This means all
the attachments that makes the engine usable in a boat are there such as raw
water pumps, transmissions, linkage hookups, engine mounts, etc. An Isuzu
block might be marinized by several different companies with different
configurations and different attachments from a variety of manufacturers.

Yanmar does the whole bag and they back the entire package. And the engine
package comes complete ready to hook up and run. No special brackets for
throttle and transmission shifting are needed to be added by the installer.
It might be the case of another engine where you might find difficulty in
trying to locate parts for the raw water pump, transmission, or engine
mounts because you cannot determine their manufacturer. Engine warranty may
not cover all accessories.

As a side note, I would hesitate to install an engine with turbocharging.
The only reason for one is to get more horsepower from a smaller package
where there is not enough space for a normally aspirated engine (or weight
problem—rare with a boat) with sufficient power. Space is not a problem in
the Babas for a normal aspirated engine of needed power. Save money for
something else—like all that electronic gadgetry Harvey has been touting.

Tom

MOONSHADOW

From: owner-baba-l@ballreich.net [mailto:owner-baba-l@ballreich.net] On
Behalf Of John Gordon Hill
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 4:42 PM
To: baba-l@ballreich.net
Subject: Re: [Baba-L] Engine re-power

Dave,

I love the Isuzu -- solid, quiet, and reliable. Everything is pretty
accessible. The model is the "marinized" QD-60. The engine compartment on
the pilothouse is pretty different from the regular "trunk cabin"
Panda/Baba, so I'm not sure about the fit. In the pilothouse, the engine
compartment is under the salon table and sole, which seems like it might be
a little forward of the "regular" design. There's plenty of room around the
Isuzu on Cantata. The engine was in the boat when I bought it 11 years ago
so I don't know what they went through to install it, but they re-used the
original Volvo transmission. I pulled the shaft when I had a Max-prop
installed, and I've replaced two of the motor mounts. It seems like
alignment isn't a problem.

I had a problem with the engine overheating a while back. We traced it down
to a restriction in the raw water cooling -- in the Volvo transmission. We
blew out the ports to the water jacket on the transmission with a garden
hose, and had no further trouble.

John

s/v Cantata, 1982 Panda 40 PH

On Mar 12, 2007, at 1:24 PM, Dave Lewis wrote:

I hear good things about the Isuzu diesel, and interested in the model and
how well it fits in the engine compartment?

Dave
S/V Bella
Ensenada, BC, Mexico

On 3/12/07, John Gordon Hill <jghill@hillfilm.com> wrote:

We sailed our Panda 40 into Elliott Bay Marina in Seattle at 10:30 at
night with 18 knots of wind when the Isuzu diesel suffered a mechanic-
induced shutdown. (Amusing little oversight, less amusing at the
time). I had radioed the marina with my predicament and they
instructed me to tie up at the end of the last dock just inside the
breakwater. They'd be there. Furled the jib, timed dropping the
main to ghost up to the dock -- no one there. My 13-year-old son
hopped off to throw a line around a cleat big enough to slow a
battleship, and the thing came right up in his hands. Bolting it
down was still on somebody's to-do list. The look on his face was
something, though. I leapt off and we both threw lines around the
pilings and muscled the 15-ton displacement to a stop. No points for
style, but hugs and high-fives all around anyway.

John Gordon Hill
s/v Cantata, 1982 Panda 40 PH

On Mar 12, 2007, at 8:32 AM, Rick Williams wrote:

> I agree. I tend to forget these rules as I keep Lorac in a slip
> that I own is in a private marina where we have no rules except
> that you maintain the property if you damage some else's property,
> you pay for the damages. Many marina's do have rules which would
> restrict sailing into a slip, often due to past experiences. Many
> also restrict dropping an anchor in the slip ways. Scenario; my
> engine just died and I can't drop my anchor as it is against the
> rules.
> Fair winds, blue water.
> Rick & Terry Williams
> S/V Lorac; Baba 30 # 71
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonadora" < sonadora@sail2live.com
<mailto:sonadora@sail2live.com> >
> To: <baba-l@ballreich.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:29 PM
> Subject: RE: [Baba-L] Engine re-power
>
>
>> And "It is a sailboat and I can sail it to a place..." is not
>> always a good
>> policy as the 'place' you're sailing to may not allow sailing
>> into the
>> marina. As bizarre as it sounds, many marinas do not allow sailing
>> into the
>> slip and my slap a fat fine on you for doing so. Of course, if you
>> must do
>> it, a fine is probably the last thing you care about.
>>
>> I know in our marina, given the funniest-home-video contenders who
>> berth
>> there, I'm glad it's not allowed.
>>
>> Rick Beddoe
>> s/v Soņadora, 1978 Baba 30
>> Minneapolis, MN
>> http://sail2live.com <http://sail2live.com>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: owner-baba-l@ballreich.net [mailto:owner-baba-
>> l@ballreich.net] On
>> Behalf Of Richard B. Emerson
>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:00 AM
>> To: baba-l@ballreich.net
>> Subject: Re: [Baba-L] Engine re-power
>>
>> On at least two occasions that come to mind, I've found that
>> assumption
>> lacking. One involved a broken prop shaft (in our Seafarer 26 -
>> probably a
>> defective shaft, aided by time, a poor design) that failed
>> literally within
>> sight of the marina. No wind and no hope of same - we were towed by a
>> couple in a Donzi (v. interesting to see the Donzi try to stay at
>> towing
>> speed!). We have also sailed into anchorages on no engine or at
>> least with
>> an engine that wasn't going to operate well for very long; it is
>> gratifying
>> to see it really can be done. (<--- high irony content [wink])
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rick Emerson
>>
>> Rick Williams wrote:
>> [... I]t is a sailboat and I can sail it to a place where parts
>> and service
>> are available.
>>
>>
>>
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