A great list for the would be buyer, but also important to current Baba
owners. Nice work.

Alan Sugarman wrote:
> Let's assume your Baba 30 is 20 years old or so. Now, looking at the
> survey, it is saying that
>
>> o Survey said it "is in good condition compared to other
>> vessels of similar type and age"
>
>
> Assuming that the Baba 30 has not been abused, on the one hand (like,
> oversanding over over cleaning the deck, failing to fix obvious leaks
> etc.) but has had no systems replaced in the 20 years, you should assume:
>
> replacing the rigging
> replacing the fuel tank - baba specific
> replacing all the rubber hosing
> replacing a lot of wiring
> replacing the charger and alternator
> rebedding everything on the cabin top and deck - everything including
> teak trim
> replacing all stainless steel t's etc that were put in by TaShing
> replacing the hot water tank
> replacing the refrig if it is 20 years or so old
> recaulk and rebung and sand the teak deck
> replace lexan on hatch covers and rebed
> replace glass in portlights (may have fogged over)
> replace rubber seals in all portlights
> replace chain plates - special concern is the bobstay chain plate that
> could be under water
>
> Then there are some Baba specific items:
> double check the bowsprit for rot as mentioned elsewhere
> the cockpit lazarette covers may need rebuilding or replacing (I
> replaced mine)
> if there were leaks from the cabin top - may have bulkheads that need
> to be rebuilt - check all bulkheads for dry rot
>
> etc.
>
> If the sails have never been replaced, then you need a full set of
> sails - forget 20 year old sails
>
> For the engine - you will need for sure all new hosing, new elbow,
> alternator (see above) etc.
>
> So, all of the above is work that should have been done 15-20 years
> into the boat.
>
> Blisters - better check that out - See current article by Steve
> Antonio is PassageMaker - this is a warning to you that could be problem.
>
> Anyway - there are boats out there that may cost twice as much but may
> be a better deal -
>
> What would a new Baba 30 cost in 2006 assuming they were still made?
> Probably$250K to $275K or more.
>
> Go price a new Pacific Seacraft 31 which is a new boat that could
> compare to a Baba 30 and then compare that to what your are paying.
>
> Then add in another 50K-75K or so for the work outlined above.
>
> But, then again, you may find a Baba 30 where the owner has been
> "investing" $5K to $10K a year and hours and hours of work on keeping
> the boat modern and in repair for the last 20 years ---
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> At 01:58 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:
>> Greetings Baba owners
>> I am not yet an owner of a Baba, but currently have an offer in the
>> works (on a Baba 30), and I would like to probe your collective
>> knowledge of Babas. I don't think I should mention the boat by name or
>> say what the current offer is since the deal is not finalized, however I
>> think it may be safe to say that it is at the bottom of the scale for a
>> Baba in good condition, and may be priced right considering it is very
>> sparsely equipped; None of the following are on the boat: GPS Roller
>> furling, heater, dingy, auto pilot, dodger. Good news (I think) is the
>> boat has been kept in fresh water for most of it's life, and appears to
>> have been maintained.
>>
>> So, here are my questions of the group:
>>
>> * It has had a survey, should I get a second?
>> o Survey said it "is in good condition compared to other
>> vessels of similar type and age"
>> o Survey showed some small blisters on hull which it
>> characterized as cosmetic and do not need immediate
>> attention.
>> * What, if any, are known deficiencies of Babas that I should
>> look at
>> * I am thinking of having a diesel mechanic check out the Yanmar,
>> but is there anything specific I should check?
>>
>> Any other comments would be appreciated
>> Thanks
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
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