Interesting... the Honda presents a low budget way to go. However, if you
can avoid gas on a sailing vessel, by all means do so, it is not the gas
itself that is dangerous, but the vapor, and when you say you never had a
problem, well if you did, you might not be here to talk about it.

The Kubota diesel gen set puts out between 140 - 200 amps, you can make
water and charge batteries at the same time you do not need to start the
main engine whose longevity is better spent pushing the boat, not charging
batteries.

Sorry Paul, but I would vote for the Kubota anyday for a true ocean going
vessel, while a coastal cruiser can use anything, becasue they are never out
of sight of land.

Dave
S/V Bella

On 7/24/06, Paul Braschi <pb@paulbraschi.com> wrote:
>
> I am sure part of my answer is heresy . . .but for costal cruising I
> travel with 2 2.5 gallon gas cans that l store in my starboard Lazarett
> with the generator plus I carry a 6.5 gallon in the dink which is on
> Davits . . . never had a problem . .. never spilled a drop . . .
>
>
>
> offshore . . . a Jerry can of gas is lashed to the railing and bumper
> boards and along with a water and diesel . . . some times a carry all three
> Jerry cans in a Lazarette as well . . . there is no equivalent in Diesel and
> the Honda isn't the end all be all but it is very quiet and it puts out 40
> Amps/hour 8 hrs to the Gallon . . . works for me. . . paul
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-baba-l@ballreich.net [mailto:owner-baba-l@ballreich.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Harvey J. Karten
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2006 11:41 AM
> *To:* baba-l@ballreich.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Baba-L] Rigging
>
>
>
> Paul,
>
> Where do you store the generator and fuel when sailing? I gather that they
> only make a unit that uses gasoline, and there is no comparable diesel unit?
>
>
> We usually end up with the gas for our outboard strapped down to odd
> places on deck.
>
> regards,
>
> Harvey
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Paul Braschi <pb@paulbraschi.com>
>
> *To:* baba-l@ballreich.net
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:51 PM
>
> *Subject:* RE: [Baba-L] Rigging
>
>
>
> Just a thought . . . .
>
>
>
> I agree that a built in generator would be great but. . . . a Honda EU
> 2000I 46 Lb portable generator is a very popular cruiser solution . . .You
> see them in ports everywhere remarkable quiet, thrifty on fuel, amazingly
> efficient, and remarkable price point . . . Wisesales.com $875 including
> shipping . . . . I that it strikes the right balance for my Baba 35
>
>
>
> Paul Braschi
>
> Wandering Star Baba 35
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-baba-l@ballreich.net [mailto:owner-baba-l@ballreich.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Rick
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 23, 2006 11:06 AM
> *To:* baba-l@ballreich.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Baba-L] Rigging
>
>
>
> Hi Dave. Thanks for the information and yes, I would like to see the
> generator installation pictures. To this date, I have not heard report of
> any Baba 30 with a generator. I do feel the generator to be the best means
> of providing power, but I have not located a unit which would be small
> enough to fit in the stern of a Baba 30. I agree completely, with the
> comments on the 304 vs. 316 materials. Mine have been well protected from
> leaks and had no evidenced of water intrusion. You a correct on the gloves
> (use white glove for formal inspections). If you spray a little WD30 on the
> wire prior to inspection it seems to make the rag, in your gloved hand grab
> the rat-tails (fish hooks) easier. I have had a great deal of experience
> with Rod Rigging, via my past ownership with a C&C Landfall. The ONLY
> downfall to rod that I can report is about 25% more initial expense and it
> can't be easily stowed below for spare rigging. These were issues which were
> easily overcome.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Dave Lewis <sailor4165@gmail.com>
>
> *To:* baba-l@ballreich.net
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:51 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Baba-L] Rigging
>
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I have an opinion, but it usually ruffles feathers... so take no offense.
>
> First, the rod is overkill, I would simply replace the head stay and
> insect the remaining rigging for signs of wear and or fish hooks. The test
> for fish hooks is tissue paper wiped down, oh, did I for get to mention -
> wear a glove.
>
> There is nothing wrong with 304 SST, the secret is to create a good seal
> to keep out sea water and atmosphere to prevent rust. If chain plates are
> inspected for sealing surface they should last the life of the boat 304 or
> 316, makes no difference when it comes to sealing out the weather. 316 is
> preferred choice, but not always available in different corners of the world
> and I would not change anything just because it was 304 and not 316.
>
> Gen set. While I have a Baba 40 I installed the small Kubota with 140 amp
> alt/DC. There are a lot of mfg., for this small unit configured vertical or
> horizontal depending upon your available room. I installed mine in the canoe
> stern on a SST 3/8" plate bolted to hull. There is not a smaller unit to my
> knowledge, let me know if you want pictures and or more info., I think Burce
> has mine on his site somewhere.
>
> Solar panels are a gimmick for coastal yahoos. First off they are ugly,
> they take up too much room, they are not efficient unless properly
> orientated with the sun... good luck with this one, unless you intend to
> stay dock side. I do not evaluate them as marine grade equipment and they
> are fragile. The solar panels only put out minimum energy, get a gen set and
> you can charge your batteries in a matter of minutes, plus make water at the
> same time, you can't run your water maker (if you have one) on solar panels
> or the battery for that matter. Solar panels belong on houses to heat
> circulating water. While we are on this subject, there is a new mfg on the
> market that just spun off of Cypress Semi that makes a panel twice as
> effective as any on being sold today. While this industry has been around a
> while, it is not very refined as I see it. No solar panels on sailboats,
> thank you very much.
>
> Anyhow, have a great day, smooth sailing and enjoy your summer. It is HOT
> here in Baja.
>
> Dave
> S/V Bella
> Ensenada, BC, Mexico
>
> On 7/22/06, *Rick* <rwsail35@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all. There was a great deal of discussion, in the past, which was
> related to the failure of the 304 ss chain plates on the Baba 30. I am happy
> to say that I seem to have dodged the ball on that issue, as I had no
> corrosion. I was less than lucky with the head stay. I have a Profurl roller
> furler on Lorac. Close inspection of the 316 ss 1x19 wire made evident wear
> which was hidden under the drum assembly. There was a small rat-tail in one
> of the 9 outer strands of the wire. This leaves the entire forestay suspect
> and is going to be replaced. I feel that it is time to simplify things a
> bit. The roller furler is going away. I am strongly considering using rod
> for the forestay as it is stronger, lighter and will allow for easier travel
> for the hank-on sails.
>
> I am also looking at power supply for cruising. Does anyone have a
> generator in their Baba 30, how many kw, where is it installed etc? Any
> opinions on solar panels?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Fair wind; blue water.
>
> Rick Williams
>
> S/V Lorac; Baba 30 #71
>
>
>
>

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