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From: Richard B. Emerson <pavilion_at_pinefields.com>
Date: Wed Jan 04 2006 - 05:29:00 PST

Peggie Hall wrote:

> [...]
>
>> 1. What do you think of Sealand "odor safe" hose?
>
>
> Not much. The original SeaLand "OdorSafe" hose was SeaLand's private
> label brand name for AVS96, made by Australian Global
> Services...proven in independent testing to be at least 16x more
> resistant to odor permeation than any other hose in the world.
> However, shortly after Dometic—a European mfr who specializes
> primarily in RV equipment--acquired SeaLand from N.A. Taylor, SeaLand
> switched to an Italian hose mfr whose hose didn't even come close to
> the permeation resistance of AVS 96 in the aforementioned
> tests...SeaLand calls the Italian hose "OdorSafe Plus." They don't
> promote it...in fact, now recommend hard pipe for some installations
> and even sell fittings to connect hose to hard pipe now.
>
> Meanwhile, AussieGlobe http://www.aussieglobe.com/avs96.htm is now
> selling their AVS96 hose direct here in the US--and for a LOT less
> than SeaLand charged for it, or for their new OdorsafePlus...$5.50/ft,
> cut to any length vs. nearly $9/ft for SeaLand in min. 50' coils.

Many thanks for sorting that out!

> [...]
>
>> 2. Is it necessary to have a siphon break after the
>> Henderson pump and before the outgoing seacock?
>
>
> Yes...and maybe. Standards call for a vented loop that's at least 6-8"
> above waterline at any angle of heel in ALL lines connected to below
> waterline thru-hulls. However if you can put the pump that high, you
> should be able to get away without one.

I really should bug Raritan about this but since I have your
attention... [grin] The inlet line for our Compact II has a vented loop
in it but the Compact II pump basically just sucks air (from the vent)
so I've had to seal the loop. I'm not happy about that for obvious
safety reasons but it's that or no commode so...

Suggestions?

Also, going back to plumbing in general, comments on using hard pipe?
It's my impression this is stuff better left on shore than used in a
boat; houses don't move, boats do, and that can cause cracks in hard
pipe or fittings. Comments?

>
>> 3. I will be going with a three y-valve installation
>> to allow pumping into the holding tank, overboard, and
>> emptying of the tank with the same pump, as well as
>> topside pump out by external means. Are there any
>> y-valves that are more reliable than others, or less
>> permeable than others?
>
>
> I'm partial to Whale y-valves and diaphragm pumps. [...]

I redid the plumbing in our Baba 35 after a "rock star" Annpolis boat
installation whiz bungled the job (e.g., I pulled out 10' of excess
hose!). The discharge from a LectraSan (found that if we really keep it
salty, it works like a charm) can either go overboard or the holding
tank. I used a new Jabsco Y-valve (the new, big, black one, not the old
"sliding plate" design). However, I suspect there maybe some small
amount of leakage into the holding tank even when overboard discharge is
selected. Again, comments?

Cheers,
   Rick

P.S. And you thought this might be a nice quiet place to hang out
without a lot of questions... [LOL]



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