Hi Everyone,

My wife and I are looking at a Baba 35 (1980) Pilothouse tomorrow afternoon
as a voyaging boat.

Can any Baba owners comment on what I should look for in terms of any
potential downsides.

Of course if we end up purchasing it we would get a proper survey.

Regards,

Ieva & Malcolm Fraser


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Sugarman" <sugarman # sugarlaw.com>
To: "Baba, Panda and Tashiba" <baba # list.sailjazz.com>
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 4:44 PM
Subject: [baba] Bowsprit Lifted


> Yipes
>
> For some unknown reasons, I found that my Baba 30 bowsprit has lifted.
>
> There is a bolt that goes throught the bowsprit into the stem - but, this
> seems to have loosened up. It is not broken (as Quernica reports their
> bolt broke).
>
> The bobstay is very tight.
>
> And, at the same time, the whisker stays suddenly are slack.
>
> I loosened up the backstay and the gap remains.
>
> The whisker tay and bobstay were all adjusted last season when new
> replaced and it is strange the whisker stays went slack. It is almost as
> if the stays streched out.
>
> The turnbuckles were pinned and taped.
>
> This is a mystery.
>
> While researching this, I found the following on the westsail site
> http://www.westsail.com/:
>
>
> BOWSPRIT ATTACHMENT AND STAYSAIL EYEBOLT
>
>
> In order to control the headstay tension, the headstay must be
sufficiently
> tight so it will not move. The key to this is the eye band staying in one
> place and only one place. If the whiskers, bobstay or bowsprit are loose,
> there can be movement. The load is taken by three 1/2" bronze bolts that
go
> through the bowsprit and deck. It is possible that the wood can be
creeping
> aft on the bolts under the tension, and that the rig is losing tension. We
> have talked to people who have pulled the bowsprit bolts and found them to
> resemble a bent letter S.
>
> The 1/2" bronze eyebolt holding the staysail stay has broken on a number
of
> occasions that we know of. The stemplate that attaches to this eyebolt and
> the stem of the boat has also broken on the bend, if there is any slight
> movement of the bowsprit. This piece should also be carefully inspected
> very frequently.
> WOODEN BOWSPRIT DELAMINATION
>
>
> Regarding delamination of the bowsprit, we have seen this happen on a
> number of boats that have been inspected, as the glue breaks down and lets
> the boards separate. If the wood is still sound, with no signs of dry rot,
> then scrape off all of the varnish, and force some epoxy resin glue (such
> as West System) into the gaps between the boards to fill it up. Next
> saturate the bowsprit with at least two coats of the epoxy resin to seal
> the wood, including all of the holes for mounting the rollers and
platform.
> You can them varnish or paint over the resin. If you have to replace the
> bowsprit, we would suggest making it out of one piece of fir, or at most
> two pieces with just one vertical seam. Use epoxy resin to glue the joint,
> and seal the wood before varnishing. We also have a stainless steel
> bowsprit available if you want to replace the whole thing.
>
> Alan
>
>
> *********************
> "Framboise"
> Port Annapolis Marina
> Baba 30-xls, Hull No. 227.
> [43' custom aluminum spar, no quarterberth, no boom gallows, Yanmar 3GMF,
> teak veneer interior]
>
>
>
>


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Received on Mon Jul 11 12:33:21 2005