Oh, jeeze... this begins to sound like the gronnagle debates on Yacht-L
(as was) long and long ago... [laugh]

Anyway, Tom's comments prompted a bit of Googling and, in the end, I'm
not so sure about "chock". First off, though, "hawse hole" and "hawse
pipe" do seem to be predominantly as OCSS has it (hole in the bulwarks
in the bow, for an anchor rode) and Webster's 3rd New Intl. Dictionary
confirms that. I didn't find, ABI Marine catalog aside, much to support
a genric "hole in the bulwark" definition. (I tried the online OED on
hawse without success. Only the compact edition is online so this is
not a conclusive result; anyone with access to the OED should gave it a
try.)
 
Chock, however, doesn't seem to fill that definition, either. In fact,
in searching the online Oxford English Dictionary, the definition
effectively precludes "hole in the bulwark":


    chock

  . *noun* *1* a wedge or block placed against a wheel to prevent it
from moving. *2* a ring with a gap at the top, through which a rope or
line is run.

  -- ORIGIN Old French /çoche/ 'block, log'.

This matches my initial understanding of the term - a thing that looks
like a C on its side or back, and intended to keep a rope or line from
sliding around as it goes somewhere (a fairlead, AFAIK, is, loosely, a
*closed* chock).

As to Aufklotzen, I'd tread carefully there - this seems to be a term
that can refer to "deadwood" (i.e., skeg) and is generally not a very
specific term. Coussin - beats me, I know just enough French to get
into trouble and not enough to get back out of it.

Finally, *please* understand the above is the product of curiousity and
not ardent pedantry. Honest. [laugh]

Rick Emerson
S/V One With The Wind, Baba 35

Tom Beard wrote:

> To all that called those hole thingies along the bulwarks, "chocks,"
> you won! You hawse-callers need to go back to matey school some more.
>
>
>
> The enclosed chocks in the bulwark of our Babas is called a "plain
> closed chock," and is defined as a noun thusly: "A heavy wooden or
> metal fitting secured on a deck or on a dock, having jaws through
> which line or cable passes, and for which it serves as a fair-lead."
> For those of you cruising the Med, or planning to: Fr: Coussin or Ger:
> Aufklotzung. Cit. International Maritime Dictionary, DeKerchove.
>
>
>
> Need I define "hawse?"
>
>
>
> Tom MOONSHADOW
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Steven Hodge [mailto:stevehodge # speakeasy.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:38 PM
> *To:* Baba, Panda and Tashiba List
> *Subject:* RE: [baba] Anchor rode
>
>
>
> But the anchor rode does NOT pass through the holes I'm talking
> about. Sure I pass one of the snubbers through it, but that's not the
> anchor rode. I'm talking about the holes through which one normally
> passes your dock lines. There are 3 on each side of Alcyon. One
> could hardly call all 3 hawse whatevers as the midships & aft ones
> couldn't possibly ever have anything to do with an anchor. So what
> the dickens is the proper name for them? Is it different on a 40 vs a
> 30? Tom B., surely you can help us out on this one! Steve, Panda 40
> Alcyon
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* David Glueck [mailto:davidglueck # earthlink.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:19 PM
> *To:* Baba, Panda and Tashiba List
> *Subject:* Re: [baba] Anchor rode
>
> Nothing worse than admitting to a mistake and finding out you were right!
>
> At 04:21 PM 6/21/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>
> The Oxford Companion to Ships and the Sea says the opening in the
> ship's bulwarks where an anchor rode passes through, in the bow, is a
> hawse hole and the metal "collar" is a hawse pipe. Chock, as a verb,
> is the process of keeping something from shifting and "taking charge"
> (OCSS' term). Neither chock (as a noun) or chain pipe is defined in
> OCSS but I'll gladly tread where even the OCSS won't [LOL]. I take a
> chock to be something to keep a line from sliding around loose as it
> comes aboard to be made off to a cleat, etc. - sort of a "C" on its
> side or back, if you will. So far as I know, if you want to buy
> something to pass chain or rope rode through the deck, ask for a chain
> pipe. I'm quite content with "hole for the chain pipe" when
> discussing where it's mounted.
> [...]
>


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