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Re: [baba] Sheet leads

From: Richard B. Emerson <pavilion_at_pinefields.com>
Date: Wed Jun 15 2005 - 06:45:47 PDT

OWTW's genny needs some restitching (mostly wear on the tabling) so it's
off while we deal with that. Sailing again with the yankee (90% jib)
and jib staysail (to be pendantic, there are several staysails made,
depending on the rig - we set a jib staysail as opposed to, for example,
a mizzen staysail) has been an eye opener. First, going to windward
with the double head sails in apparent winds in the 10-15 kt range (or
even a little higher), the boat hauls like a freight train once the
correct lead angles are sorted out. However, we found that OWTW won't
point as high as she would with the 135% genny alone. At 35 deg.
apparent wind, she just feels pinched although she will make way. On at
least one occasion in light air (and little or no wave action) we were
actually able to sail surprisingly well.

Off the wind, particularly at apparent wind angles of 120 deg or more,
the staysail has to come down, of course, and the yankee is almost
blanketed by the main (although rolling it in shows it does draw
somewhat). Although we don't have a vang (yet...), I do rig a preventer
which hauls the boom down much as a vang does. This means the main is
generally open and drawing (and covering the yankee). By comparison,
the 135 genny will still work well at 120 deg.

Recent remarks seem to paint this as an either/or situation and it's
not. We sail in an area where apparent winds seldom go much above 20
kts so a 135 genny works well. Were we to sail where apparent winds can
come up to 20-25 kts regularly, I'd set the yankee and jib staysail far
more often. The choice, then, should be driven by works locally.

Rick Emerson
S/V One With The Wind, Baba 35

Cindy Ballreich wrote:

> Just to stir things up, here's a quote from Bob Perry replying to some
> questions from our own Rick Beddoe. This is from the Cruising World
> Forum six or eight months ago...
>
> "Rick: I have drawn a lot of high clewed yankees in my day but I am
> not a fan of that sail, anymore. I prefer to use a low clewed jib with
> the clew no higher than the top lifeline. You can sail with a low
> clewed jib alone. You cannot (should not) sail with a high clewed
> yankee without the staysail. If you get a nice ( expensive) low clewed
> 110% jib you may find that you are better off not flying your staysail
> in most conditions. It makes no sense to bear off just to make sure
> both staysail and jib are filled. Your boat speed will improve but
> your VMG will go down. This can be deceptive so rely upon your
> instruments."
>
>
> Steven Hodge wrote:
>
>>
>> We also concluded, like you say, that the boat was designed for those
>> sails,
>> and those sails for the boat. The combination is what Perry was
>> optimizing
>> for. If he'd wanted to design a genoa-mainsail boat he'd have drawn a
>> sloop. But he drew a cutter. So it makes good logic that the working
>> (cutter) sails should work really well. And they do.
>
>



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